1.0.9.6 observations

1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-06 21:44

First, Rudi and all, thanks for the great work on the 1.0.9.6. Here are
some observations.

Not sure if these issues are specific to my environment or not, or perhaps
they are already known quantities, but I have seen the following with
1.0.9.6:

1) Chat crashes VNC session

2) When using the "Select Full Desktop/Switch Monitor" button, I can only
toggle through the primary monitor and dual screen. I can never just
view the secondary monitor on its own. With 1.0.8.2 I was able to toggled
between primary, secondary, and both. Could be something with my
config like I said. Perhaps someone can confirm that they are able to still
view all three viewing options in a dual screen arrangement.

3) When using u2 encoding, I lose the mouse pointer. Just have
the "dot" instead of the pointer. (Again, could be my specific settings...)
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 17:55

My first test with Chat appeared to have the same effect as you described. However, on physical exam of my Server-comp, I noticed it had dead-locked. I'm gonna perform a few tests after reboot etc.

2nd isn't applicable to me

3rd i have not tried this option, but i am using only the pointer as-is, so...
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 18:34

regarding the pointer when using u2 encoding, to be clear:

Image

versus

Image

Again, this could be something particular to my environment or specific to my settings. All computers at my disposal are Windows 7 x64.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 19:14

I cannot select u2 encoding, even during manual select... hmmm...
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 19:15

Delete your saved settings on the main screen if you cannot select "u2". (per Rudi in recent conversation prior to release, somewhere on the forum.)
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 19:43

I have done a complete Reinstall of UVNC since 1.0.9.6 Release, per my post about broken SecureVNC support. I really don't think I should need to re-re-erase UVNC for this to work.


Edit: sorry, that worked, but hm... why?

And: Yes, I have the same problem as you, with u2 encoding, no mouse pointer, only dot.

Running

Server WinXP SP2 x64 1096
Viewer WinXP SP3 x32 1096
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 19:47

You mistunderstand. Delete saved settings from within the viewer interface...

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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 19:47

Yes, I did understand, albeit at a slight lag from my post... see my edit.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Rudi De Vos » 2011-04-07 20:01

There are 2 cursor options, (viewer props)
Track local..
Let remote server deal..

Try the other one
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:03

Both fails for me, with a new connect, I still only get a Dot.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 20:04

Same here.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Rudi De Vos » 2011-04-07 20:10

It stay a dot after you move over a window to cause a cursor shape change ?
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 20:13

Yes.

Wait a second, I got a pointer again. Need to duplicate my steps and settings...
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:14

At u2 encode Track remote cursor locally - yes
At u2 Let remote server deal with mouse cursor - no


it would appear that mine and bridge's errors could be caused by the viewer.

I use Win32 as viewer, whereas he uses x64 (according to his posted pic.)

edit:

I had a quick suspicion that moving mouse before logon would have something to do with it, but no.

Tested u2 enc with track/let deal with/without moving cursor. in both instances "let remote server deal with mouse cursor" provided a mouse cursor, whereas "track remote cursor locally" would not.

But as a side note: When logged on at "unlock screen", moving windows will not refresh, wrong password dialog will remain upon reentering password until logon
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Rudi De Vos » 2011-04-07 20:20

viewer=vista_32
server=win7_x64
running as application

[v] Poll fullscreen
[v] System Hookdll
[v] Low accuracy

I always have the cursor, independed of the settings.

OS's ?
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:21

viewer=WinXP_SP3_x32
server=WinXP_SP2_x64
edit: server=service_mode
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 20:24

Better test results

Using Directx
track cursor local = pointer NEVER resolves
track cursoe remote = this works

Not using Directx
Either cursor setting and the pointer resolves over a window as Rudi
suggests.

I am running Windows 7 x64. It seems I had an unfortuante set of
settings, with track local cursor and Directx selected as this is the only
combination that I can reproduce the issue with.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:26

Going to try to replicate using DirectX settings, stay tuned.


edit: Same result as bridge.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Rudi De Vos » 2011-04-07 20:26

does only the u2 encoder has the problems ?

1) Initial pointer is not send, i had several crashed caused by sending
the pointer to fast after start. As soon as the pointer change, it is updated.

2) Directx
Even with directx have have the pointer in both cases.

What's the server/viewer color depth ? 16/32
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:30

cannot tell, I can go through all modes, just to be sure. Will report back in a while.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 20:34

I cannot duplicate the problem when using Directx with either ZRLE or
Hextile. No big deal to use the track cursor remotely in order to work
around of course (when using u2 with Directx)
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Rudi De Vos » 2011-04-07 20:38

u2 was actual made for fast moving images.
It use the Jpeg(Tight) parameter for quality. (default 6)


1° crash

I could repeat it.

server X64, viewer w32 -> chat crash
server w32, viewer w32 -> OK
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:44

Agreed, with Hextile or ZRLE DirectX is no problem.

I really don't feel like going through all modes atm:P

Forgot about that crashbug, but it does ring a bell
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby Teazle » 2011-04-07 20:50

Connecting as

Encode u2 with Track locally WITHOUT DirectX - no cursor
Encode u2 with Track locally WITH DirectX - a cursor

edit: ZRLE with either - a cursor
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-07 21:07

viewer=win7_x64
server=win7_x64/display settings are 32 bit color
running as service

[ ] Poll foreground
[v] Poll fullscreen
[v] Mirror Driver
[ ] System Hookdll
[v] Low accuracy

The only way I can duplicate the lack of a mouse pointer is when using:

u2 + track cursor locally

(Directx does not seem to be involved and if I use let the server handle
the cursor then the mouse pointer is displayed.)

Man this stuff gets confusing...

[Edit]
Just ran through it one more time and made sure. The above is
what I can duplicate. Using "Let remote server deal with mouse cursor" works around the problem.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby bridge » 2011-04-15 00:41

From my original post in this thread:

2) When using the "Select Full Desktop/Switch Monitor" button, I can only
toggle through the primary monitor and dual screen. I can never just
view the secondary monitor on its own. With 1.0.8.2 I was able to toggled
between primary, secondary, and both. Could be something with my
config like I said. Perhaps someone can confirm that they are able to still
view all three viewing options in a dual screen arrangement.


If anyone has a dual monitor setup with 1.0.9.6 server and mirror driver
installed, can you please relay your experience? I am curious to find out
if this is something wrong with my settings/environment or inherent to
uVNC 1.0.9.6. As I mentioned, with 1.0.8.2, I was able to get three
results: Primary, Secondary, or Both. Now it seems I can only get
Primary or Both.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby redge » 2011-04-17 02:38

bridge,

server X64, viewer w32 -> chat crash
server w32, viewer w32 -> OK


please try the update 10961 if solve your issue ?
10961 Beta
UltraVNC 1.0.9.6.1 (built 20110518)
OS Win: xp home + vista business + 7 home
only experienced user, not developer
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby caveman » 2011-04-21 01:37

bridge wrote:From my original post in this thread:

2) When using the "Select Full Desktop/Switch Monitor" button, I can only
toggle through the primary monitor and dual screen. I can never just
view the secondary monitor on its own. With 1.0.8.2 I was able to toggled
between primary, secondary, and both. Could be something with my
config like I said. Perhaps someone can confirm that they are able to still
view all three viewing options in a dual screen arrangement.


If anyone has a dual monitor setup with 1.0.9.6 server and mirror driver
installed, can you please relay your experience? I am curious to find out
if this is something wrong with my settings/environment or inherent to
uVNC 1.0.9.6. As I mentioned, with 1.0.8.2, I was able to get three
results: Primary, Secondary, or Both. Now it seems I can only get
Primary or Both.


I am using a slightly adapted 1.0.8.2 and I can only get primary or both. I tried both checking and unchecking the hook driver. I could get secondary only with a slight adaptation of an older version of UVNC.

My UVNC is adapted by Axeda Corp. I highly doubt that they broke it. They added support for Japanese keyboard which is about the only difference that I can tell.
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby GTA_doum » 2011-05-10 11:34

Hello,

When a 1.0.8.2 client connects to a 1.0.9.6 server, it hangs the screen. Have to reconnect with a 1.0.9.6 client twice to bring back the screen alive. Tested with another VNC client (Using old protocol 3.3) and it hangs the screen the same way.
Thanks,
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Re: 1.0.9.6 observations

Postby YY » 2011-05-10 17:03

GTA_doum wrote:When a 1.0.8.2 client connects to a 1.0.9.6 server, it hangs the screen.

See if this is your problem: BUG: Old Version Viewer will crash Server 1.0.9.6
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