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SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!!
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Caramel



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#1|PostPosted: 2007-11-28 00:12    Post subject: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

....::::UPDATE::::....

This thread has gone nuts... Smile To be perfectly honest i am no longer really working in the tech support industry much anymore but needed to fix up an SC for a friend (and of course did not have a copy of the setup anymore Smile... ) jumped on here to take a look (and grab a copy) and was impressed/shocked at the thread remaining quite alive and at the top of the list (suprised it is not sticky yet... *moderator hint*)

anyway while i am here i wanted to update the url for a d/l of the setup

Decided to use JDaus' kindly hosted version @
http://vnc2me.org/downloads.html?func=fileinfo&id=5

(JDaus i hope this is ok... you did post yourself further on in thread just bringing to top)

Any issues I can help with PM me in forum as i am not around much anymore but still get PM emails (don't expect a fast respose tho).


orig post:

after much research and scripting I have come up with a working SC for vista.


involves a bit of scripting and an install of the uvnc addon driver (automatic if vista detected)
also disables reg key to enable the viewer to see (but not interact with) the "cancel/allow" prompts on UAC protected systems.

readme included.

Very Happy

all you have to do is edit the helpdesk.txt and replace icons etc if you want to and run the compile.cmd


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#2|PostPosted: 2007-11-28 13:53    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

Thanks for your contribution to the uvnc project.. We all appreciate it..)
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#3|PostPosted: 2007-11-29 16:45    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

testing...

with aero activated --still very slow (with transparent or not)

with basic graphic --perfect

thank you


PD: sorry my english
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#4|PostPosted: 2007-11-30 02:59    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

aero is going to be slow no matter what very graphic intensive to do 3d..Sad
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Caramel



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#5|PostPosted: 2007-11-30 05:11    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

i was under the impression that the addon driver turned off aero but i could be mistaken (not got an aero vista to check)


Any more feedback - I would like to know if what i have done has been worth it..

also if anyone has problems or suggestions i am open to discussion.

btw around 50ppl have downloaded it so far !!!! Smile


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#6|PostPosted: 2007-11-30 08:22    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

I have no vista to check at the moment but when I look into your code I see you set some registry keys and install a driver. The question I have is do you need administrator privileges to do this or may a simply user also install this. Second question is where need I the diver for.
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#7|PostPosted: 2007-11-30 17:30    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

I'm testing this on a LAN with a Vista machine with AERO enabled. It's taking about 10-15 seconds to refresh, which is still faster than it has been running for me.

Thanks,
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#8|PostPosted: 2007-12-01 17:39    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

Caramel wrote:
i was under the impression that the addon driver turned off aero but i could be mistaken (not got an aero vista to check)


yes , is turned off the first time, but on restat the computer and load again SC, appear a CMD box with error, and aero is not turned off. in next try SC, aero is turned off and working...

PD: if SC is execute with double click or click as administrator, is the same..

PD2: sorry my english again, only speak spanish.
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#9|PostPosted: 2007-12-02 21:22    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

Greta wrote:
I have no vista to check at the moment but when I look into your code I see you set some registry keys and install a driver. The question I have is do you need administrator privileges to do this or may a simply user also install this. Second question is where need I the diver for.


yes you do need admin unfortunately, but then you need admin to run the normal SC as the 7z package elevates you anyway. Vista sees it as being a program installer.

The driver helps with the screen resfreshes as without it the client viewer never gets any refresh unless you force it.
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#10|PostPosted: 2007-12-04 15:20    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

thx, very much , is more better that we can cr8 sc simple with "create.cmd" without filr upload.:d THX THX THX Very Happy , i repear very much computers.
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#11|PostPosted: 2007-12-06 21:23    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

i have been having a small issue with this not being quite as smooth after rebooting the vista machine and running it again...


has anyone else seen this happen...
could anyone shed some light on it?

could it be that the driver does not stay correctly installed?

i could remove the driver after running and then install each time... might give it a shot

if anyone else has any suggestions i would be most welcome
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#12|PostPosted: 2007-12-10 23:20    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

yes, while vncviewer connected to server and driver installed and enabled, e aero is auto disabled and convert to vista basic then, session finish, come back as the vista you have really.
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#13|PostPosted: 2007-12-13 03:05    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

verified problem

if you completly remove the driver (requires reboot)
and run my version again it works flawlessly

can anyone tell me how to re-activate the driver or remove it without reboot?

re-activation would be the better solution...

i will have a play around myself but any info would be good

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btw the "uninstall.bat" does not seem to remove the driver at all...
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#14|PostPosted: 2007-12-18 06:59    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

Tested on Vista Ultimate x64, get "Driver failed to install"
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#15|PostPosted: 2007-12-19 06:07    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

yeah i would say that the driver is not x64 compatible

is there even an x64 driver available yet?
...


btw still having problems with connection after a reboot - the driver does no fully activate again - i need some way of reactivating the driver (re-install over the top does not work)

removal of the driver after disconnect works but requires a reboot...
(and i have not been able to script that yet tho i don't see it being impossible)


is there any sort of call that can be made to the driver to activate it?

the initial install must do something that makes it run at a different level to what it runs at after reboot?

can anybody help - i am at a loss to fix this and it is the only downside to this method which otherwise works perfectly.
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#16|PostPosted: 2007-12-19 15:19    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

testing on xp sp3 RC v3244, work perfect...
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#17|PostPosted: 2008-01-14 16:34    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

Hi Caramel,

Over the past few weeks, my friend and I have managed to come up with a solution to the Vista Desktop Composition (Aero) problem using a percentage of your scripting and a little application we created that disables the Desktop composition in C#. The application simply passes a command to the DWM dll (dwmapi.dll) telling it to disable Aero until the application is closed. We came up with the idea as we use a lot of graphic design programs which early releases that claimed “vista compatibility” simply turned off the desktop composition. After a little searching on the net, we found a c# command which did exactly what we wanted, so we just created a mini project and that was it. We modified your command to then run our application (aero.exe) if vista was detected and to kill our application if the connection was closed or killed. By doing this, it solves the problems everyone seems to be having.

We are more than happy to post our solution if you are happy with the modifications we have made.

Please let us know if we can do so.

Cheers
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#18|PostPosted: 2008-01-15 10:04    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

Radeon,

go for it....

the code is there to share... i would like to try your proggy myself i am starting to get frustrated with trying different things and have kinda put it in the too hard basket for the moment
Smile


btw if anyone is wondering why i don't use pchelpware frankly the viewer side is crap. I support clients all day every day and leave the viewer listening sc is the simplest and best method on the viewer side. If pchelpware had a viewer that sat in the tray and did not die every time the client d/c's it would be the solution.
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#19|PostPosted: 2008-01-15 10:41    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

I have uploaded our version of the Single Click Vista to Mediafire which you can get from:

Code:
Link removed


Use Caramel's link further in the thread as it uses a better autoit wrapper

I have modified the Readme.txt to correspond with the changes we have made.

Please do try this out and get back to us with any feedback.

Cheers,


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#20|PostPosted: 2008-01-15 17:13    Post subject: Re: SC + Vista Compatibility - WORKING!!!!!! Reply with quote

If all you want to do is disable Vista AERO, you don't need a separate program to do it... you can do it in a batch file or directly from the winvnc.exe program in VC6.

“Rundll32.exe dwmApi #104" - disables
“Rundll32.exe dwmApi #102" - enables

or the VC6 way...

Code:
ShellExecute(GetDesktopWindow(), "open", "Rundll32.exe", "dwmApi #104", NULL, SW_HIDE); // Disable Aero - PGM @ Advantig


ShellExecute(GetDesktopWindow(), "open", "Rundll32.exe", "dwmApi #102", NULL, SW_HIDE); // Enable Aero - PGM @ Advantig

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